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Tinderbox Users?
- Thread starter Vilmosz
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mwra
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Some references
I don't 'GTD' myself but there certainly are Tinderbox folk using TB for GTD; someone's even posted some (fre) GTD templates. You might TB GTD-ers find them more easily by by visiting some of these resources:
- TB wiki: http://www.eastgate.com/wiki2/wiki.cgi
- A wiki GTD page: http://www.eastgate.com/wiki2/wiki.cgi?GettingThingsDone
- TB Exchange (TB GTD templates): http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/Exchange.html
- The TB mail-list: http://lee-phillips.org/mailman/listinfo/tb
You might also find my extented reference to Tinderbox's function and syntax of use: http://www.acrobatfaq.com/tbx/index.html
Regards
Mark Anderson
(just another Tinderbox user...)
I don't 'GTD' myself but there certainly are Tinderbox folk using TB for GTD; someone's even posted some (fre) GTD templates. You might TB GTD-ers find them more easily by by visiting some of these resources:
- TB wiki: http://www.eastgate.com/wiki2/wiki.cgi
- A wiki GTD page: http://www.eastgate.com/wiki2/wiki.cgi?GettingThingsDone
- TB Exchange (TB GTD templates): http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/Exchange.html
- The TB mail-list: http://lee-phillips.org/mailman/listinfo/tb
You might also find my extented reference to Tinderbox's function and syntax of use: http://www.acrobatfaq.com/tbx/index.html
Regards
Mark Anderson
(just another Tinderbox user...)
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Bobby
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GTD & Tinderbox
I've been using the GTD template for Tinderbox created by Ryan Holcomb (see http://fridgedoor.net/prototyping/stepwise.html and http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/Exchange.html) for about a year now. It's works great. In fact, I learned a lot about how Tinderbox works by using Ryan's GTD template and reading his website. Once I learned how to export my NextActions page to an html file that I could print, I've been in great shape. The Tinderbox Wiki is a great source of guidance, as is the Tinderbox support (the best for any software I've ever used!). Developing a basic comfort level with Tinderbox is easy and then you can delve more deeply into its awesome power...which I've still just getting into myself.
I have my GTD Tinderbox file open all day and use an InBox to input notes and next actions throughout the day. I also use a Moleskin notebook and my printed out NextActions to collect random thoughts and actions throughout the day. But, the key for GTD purposes is the flexibility of Tinderbox to quickly generate notes (actions, plans, etc.), link them, display them in multiple ways (outlines, maps, simple text data entry), find and sort them in multiple ways (due dates, projects, context, keyword), and finally export them into multiple formats.
Just as an example, my GTD document has 1353 notes organized into 18 contexts (7 of which are agendas with fellow staff) and a whole bunch of projects. One advantage of Tinderbox is it is easy to have a set of notes for a project and the next actions together under the project heading, but also have all the next actions for any project show up under the appropriate context.
Tinderbox is also great for brainstorming, planning, writing, and just serving as my electronic brain. Next to email and web browsing, it's my most frequently used application.
I've been using the GTD template for Tinderbox created by Ryan Holcomb (see http://fridgedoor.net/prototyping/stepwise.html and http://www.eastgate.com/Tinderbox/Exchange.html) for about a year now. It's works great. In fact, I learned a lot about how Tinderbox works by using Ryan's GTD template and reading his website. Once I learned how to export my NextActions page to an html file that I could print, I've been in great shape. The Tinderbox Wiki is a great source of guidance, as is the Tinderbox support (the best for any software I've ever used!). Developing a basic comfort level with Tinderbox is easy and then you can delve more deeply into its awesome power...which I've still just getting into myself.
I have my GTD Tinderbox file open all day and use an InBox to input notes and next actions throughout the day. I also use a Moleskin notebook and my printed out NextActions to collect random thoughts and actions throughout the day. But, the key for GTD purposes is the flexibility of Tinderbox to quickly generate notes (actions, plans, etc.), link them, display them in multiple ways (outlines, maps, simple text data entry), find and sort them in multiple ways (due dates, projects, context, keyword), and finally export them into multiple formats.
Just as an example, my GTD document has 1353 notes organized into 18 contexts (7 of which are agendas with fellow staff) and a whole bunch of projects. One advantage of Tinderbox is it is easy to have a set of notes for a project and the next actions together under the project heading, but also have all the next actions for any project show up under the appropriate context.
Tinderbox is also great for brainstorming, planning, writing, and just serving as my electronic brain. Next to email and web browsing, it's my most frequently used application.
Tinderbox vs Inspiration
Thanks, Bobby. As a way of getting my brain wrapped around the Tinderbox philosophy, how would you compare it to Inspiration? I use Inspiration a lot -- I know it is VERY basic, but I have a hard time absorbing things conceptually, so if you could explain Tinderbox by comparison with Inspiration it would be very helpful to me -- and I'd appreciate it a great deal. In the meantime, I'll explore the resources posted here.
Thanks!
Thanks, Bobby. As a way of getting my brain wrapped around the Tinderbox philosophy, how would you compare it to Inspiration? I use Inspiration a lot -- I know it is VERY basic, but I have a hard time absorbing things conceptually, so if you could explain Tinderbox by comparison with Inspiration it would be very helpful to me -- and I'd appreciate it a great deal. In the meantime, I'll explore the resources posted here.
Thanks!
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Bobby
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Tinderbox vs Inspriration
I haven't used Inspiration but once so I'm not the best person to explain the differences. But, I would suggest downloading Tinderbox and the GTD file, then just start fiddling around with it. The outliner portion is pretty similar to Inspiration in some ways, but the map view is quite a bit different.
The best comparison between these two programs and many other outliners can be found at ATPO:
http://www.atpm.com/10.10/atpo.shtml
and
http://www.atpm.com/Back/atpo.shtml
One aspect of Tinderbox that is different is that you can have multiple views of the same set of notes: outline, explorer, map, and a few others I almost never use. [Important terminology: in Inspriration, Tinderbox's notes are line entries in an outline or the boxes in Inspirations map view. In Tinderbox, notes can contain other notes, which is another way of saying that one level of the outline (a note) can have other levels (notes) indented underneath it.]
Another difference is that you can also view them as text or html export files. This is where Tinderbox begins to be more complicated and requires some knowledge of html page construction (not a lot but enough to look at some references online, the Tinderbox Users Guide, the wiki, and just taking apart one or two templates by other Tinderbox users). But, once you figure out how to export and/or print your Tinderbox files, you don't need to mess with the templates for these much at all. In other words, the challenge and fun and power of Tinderbox is that you can customize it so much.
Finally, another difference is that Tinderbox doesn't force you to rely so much on just an outline or map view of all your notes. Because these agents (which are like other notes
I have a few screen shots of my GTD file that I could email you in case they would help. The first shows just the three outline views I use (full in Explorer view, an outline of the NextAction notes which is a collection of notes gathered by little agents which are little search criteria, and the InBox note). The second shows the two map views I use (one for project notes and the other for actions). The map view boxes are just notes with their titles and in the color I've set for each. This is just a convenient way to see lots of projects grouped (the background colors aren't notes but are "adornments" boxes that decorate part of the map view). It also is an easy way to move notes from my InBox to another part of my GTD "outline" without scrolling a lot. My screen at work is wider, so I have these windows off to the right when I'm working (not overlapping so much as they are in these screen dumps).
I haven't used Inspiration but once so I'm not the best person to explain the differences. But, I would suggest downloading Tinderbox and the GTD file, then just start fiddling around with it. The outliner portion is pretty similar to Inspiration in some ways, but the map view is quite a bit different.
The best comparison between these two programs and many other outliners can be found at ATPO:
http://www.atpm.com/10.10/atpo.shtml
and
http://www.atpm.com/Back/atpo.shtml
One aspect of Tinderbox that is different is that you can have multiple views of the same set of notes: outline, explorer, map, and a few others I almost never use. [Important terminology: in Inspriration, Tinderbox's notes are line entries in an outline or the boxes in Inspirations map view. In Tinderbox, notes can contain other notes, which is another way of saying that one level of the outline (a note) can have other levels (notes) indented underneath it.]
Another difference is that you can also view them as text or html export files. This is where Tinderbox begins to be more complicated and requires some knowledge of html page construction (not a lot but enough to look at some references online, the Tinderbox Users Guide, the wiki, and just taking apart one or two templates by other Tinderbox users). But, once you figure out how to export and/or print your Tinderbox files, you don't need to mess with the templates for these much at all. In other words, the challenge and fun and power of Tinderbox is that you can customize it so much.
Finally, another difference is that Tinderbox doesn't force you to rely so much on just an outline or map view of all your notes. Because these agents (which are like other notes
I have a few screen shots of my GTD file that I could email you in case they would help. The first shows just the three outline views I use (full in Explorer view, an outline of the NextAction notes which is a collection of notes gathered by little agents which are little search criteria, and the InBox note). The second shows the two map views I use (one for project notes and the other for actions). The map view boxes are just notes with their titles and in the color I've set for each. This is just a convenient way to see lots of projects grouped (the background colors aren't notes but are "adornments" boxes that decorate part of the map view). It also is an easy way to move notes from my InBox to another part of my GTD "outline" without scrolling a lot. My screen at work is wider, so I have these windows off to the right when I'm working (not overlapping so much as they are in these screen dumps).
Vilmosz;32031 said:Thanks, Bobby. As a way of getting my brain wrapped around the Tinderbox philosophy, how would you compare it to Inspiration? I use Inspiration a lot -- I know it is VERY basic, but I have a hard time absorbing things conceptually, so if you could explain Tinderbox by comparison with Inspiration it would be very helpful to me -- and I'd appreciate it a great deal. In the meantime, I'll explore the resources posted here.
Thanks!
If you talking about inspiration, you can read at http://jackbaty.com/2005/01/gtd-tinderbox-devonthink-and-others/index.html
You may find out what you want....
I have never used Tinderbox personally, but it does sound pretty interesting. By the sound of it, it seems like something I would enjoy using. I will have to download it, and play around with it a little bit. Thank you for sharing this, and I'll be sure to let you all know what I think of it. Does anyone know anything about ms dynamics crm? I am wondering what it's use is. Thank you.