A Few Concerns

What's really needed for GTD practice is using the 5 Stages of GTD. How people do that is up to them; David only suggests perhaps using time or priority to help make that decision, but it's not a requirement. But the author of those posts clearly uses the 5 Stages of GTD within his bullet journal, so I have zero concerns, myself.

(The irony of this post is that there's no system more misrepresented on the internet than bullet journaling, in my opinion)

Interesting take. So the five-step process itself is what matters. Hmm... you might be right. After all, even the 2-minute rule can become a 15-minute rule if you prefer. Allen also mentions in the book that if someone has a simple list of next actions, they don't necessarily need to use contexts. Thanks – I hadn't looked at it that way.

I just doubt Bujo can handle a situation where someone has, say, 100 different projects. But isn't that a solution for people with short lists (are there still those?)? :)

And could you elaborate on the "misrepresented on the internet than bullet journaling" topic?
 
And could you elaborate on the "misrepresented on the internet than bullet journaling" topic?
I appreciate this wasn’t addressed to me, but I did think that was a very funny (and spot on) point.

There is a lot of talk around this point regarding Bullet Journal, as a quick Google search often surfaces many beautiful elaborate artworks and spreads, where the original Bullet Journal system described by Ryder Carroll is a fairly simple (in the best sense) system.

The official company often address this, as it could potentially put off or overwhelm newcomers. I think they generally strike a good balance with that messaging, often saying there is no ‘wrong’ way to do it, but to focus more on intention and what you want/need from your system.
 
I appreciate this wasn’t addressed to me, but I did think that was a very funny (and spot on) point.

There is a lot of talk around this point regarding Bullet Journal, as a quick Google search often surfaces many beautiful elaborate artworks and spreads, where the original Bullet Journal system described by Ryder Carroll is a fairly simple (in the best sense) system.

The official company often address this, as it could potentially put off or overwhelm newcomers. I think they generally strike a good balance with that messaging, often saying there is no ‘wrong’ way to do it, but to focus more on intention and what you want/need from your system.
Oh! That's a very good point. I also noticed this emphasis on style over substance, and I also saw Ryder correct it.

You have to be very careful who you watch on YouTube. On the one hand, you have people who practice what they recommend every day and are genuine about it (maybe 10-20%), on the other, you have people who are just interested in getting views.

I once came across a guy who had really cool videos, until I realized he was successful because he followed GTD, Deep Work, Bujo, To-Do List, the Eisenhower Matrix, and who knows what else is currently trendy. Watching him apply all of this, the only conclusion I can draw is that Elon Musk—as we say here in Poland—could carry his briefcases.
 
@Tom_Hagen Yes, there are. I use one page for ALL MY Next Actions during a month. Any outstanding Next Actions are moved to the new page on the first day of the new month. I'm a slow achiever!

By the way, I use a modified https://alastairjohnston.com/tag/the-alastair-method/ for BuJo.
@TesTeq

Thank you for sharing Alastair Johnson's visually efficient 'matrix' method as an additional way to appropriately execute the GTD method

Quite impressive

Amazing what fellow men can come up with ?

Have a great day :)
 
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Perhaps this should be a new thread, but I'd love to know a little more about people's GTD/BuJo systems - I myself have recently moved back to my notebook, and often use the limitations of paper as a way of forcing myself to have a better focus on priorities. I find it easy with a digital system to fall into the trap of tracking everything and progressing nothing (which is 100% a 'me' problem, not a GTD/digital one)

@devon.marie: I see from your signature you use multiple notebooks, would you mind sharing what your key collections are and what lives where? I've previously ditched BuJo due to frustrations flipping back and forth for agenda collections, etc., but the draw of having a single notebook is strong...
@TesTeq: What do you use the columns for on your next actions? Context?
 
Interesting take. So the five-step process itself is what matters. Hmm... you might be right. After all, even the 2-minute rule can become a 15-minute rule if you prefer. Allen also mentions in the book that if someone has a simple list of next actions, they don't necessarily need to use contexts. Thanks – I hadn't looked at it that way.

I just doubt Bujo can handle a situation where someone has, say, 100 different projects. But isn't that a solution for people with short lists (are there still those?)? :)

And could you elaborate on the "misrepresented on the internet than bullet journaling" topic?
I admit I've dropped most of my contexts because my job is so deadline-driven I rarely can lump tasks together anyway. 90% or more are done at my desk so at that point, taking the time to define them became unnecessary extra work. But I have seen (and done it myself, back in the day) bullet journals with spreads for each context list, and it works well.

I have about 30 open projects right now, after a big pruning at the beginning of summer. I'm not sure why bullet journaling wouldn't be good for large numbers of projects -- it's very easy to go down the project list during a weekly review and make sure they've been moving along at appropriate paces or brainstorming new next actions for them. When I do that, I put those new tasks on my next actions list like I would do if I used a digital task manager.

And yeah, like PlunkRock said, any search of "bullet journal" turns up art projects with little todo lists in them. The original method was about calming the ADHD chaos brain and featured no art at all. How we went from that to creating something that -- at least in my case -- triggers ADHD chaos brain by filling it with doodles and needing perfection is beyond me.
 
Perhaps this should be a new thread, but I'd love to know a little more about people's GTD/BuJo systems [...]
@devon.marie: I see from your signature you use multiple notebooks, would you mind sharing what your key collections are and what lives where? I've previously ditched BuJo due to frustrations flipping back and forth for agenda collections, etc., but the draw of having a single notebook is strong...
Probably worthy of another thread, but I can give a short answer here. I need to keep work data separate from personal for privacy reasons (I work in local government), so I have two systems of essentially the same thing. I keep my personal and work calendars both in the Nolty 3111 because I can carry it in my pocket everywhere (though I duplicate my work calendar on Google Calendar because it's needed for work).

I use A5 notebooks (mostly Leuchtturms) as bullet journals for work because I need to keep a log of my day-to-day; I've been doing this since 2014. All work tasks are also tracked in the A5 via the monthly spread (where I put things that MUST be done this month, mostly for deadlines or goals) or in a running list in the back of the notebook I call Backlog because I have a terrible sense of humor and find it funny. Projects are tracked in a Projects List spread, and if a project has spreads for notetaking or whatnot, the page numbers go on here as well, next to the project name. Other GTD-suggested lists I keep are Agendas, Errands, Waiting For, Someday/Maybe, On Hold.

I use the Plotter for the same purpose but personal; I don't keep a log so it's not a bullet journal, though. I keep a lot of lists of things (books to read, movies to watch, vinyl to buy, etc.), so that's what's mostly in here. Tasks are kept in the back of the 3111, in the notes pages. It also comes with extra little notes books so tasks can spill into those if needed. Nothing complicated at all.

I myself have recently moved back to my notebook, and often use the limitations of paper as a way of forcing myself to have a better focus on priorities. I find it easy with a digital system to fall into the trap of tracking everything and progressing nothing (which is 100% a 'me' problem, not a GTD/digital one)
This is also why I use paper. My ADHD brain gets waaaaaaaay too sucked into tools and fiddling and tinkering. I love the freedom of paper, just flipping to a new spread and writing or doodling whatever the heck I want. And I have a long shelf of Leuchtturms sitting next to me at work every day that I've dipped into many times to find something, and I remember *so* much more of what I write vs type. My brain just likes it better, even if technology would technically be easier/faster.
 
What do you use the columns for on your next actions? Context?
@PlunkRock Yes, I've got 6 context columns on the left margin of the monthly sheet:

HGECPWNext Action
Paint the fence.
Call Fliteboard support (battery charger dead).
OBackup photos from the old SD card.

H = Home, G = Garden, E = Errands, C = Computer, P = Phone, W = Waiting For

A dot in the column means that the Next Action belongs to this context. A dot in a circle in the column means "done" (additionally the Next Action is crossed out).
 
Weighing in on the original question, I think people having been too quick to label things as GTD without truly understanding the full methodology. There are certainly boundaries and i'd say a good way to see what's outside the bounds is to see if it is specifically antithetical to a tenet of GTD. For example, scheduling everything on the calendar. I have used parts of GTD at times and not the whole system so i'd think if someone were honest that they were using only parts intentionally then referring to those parts as part of GTD would work but not presenting everything as GTD. I think the name hurts things as it is too easily confused with a common phrase people use. Finally, i've also seen many people try to point out problems in GTD and essentially take down a straw man. For example, the most common I see is contexts. Contexts are not required for GTD and haven't been since the first book. You could always have different ones than what David suggested or 1 next actions list if that fit. The issue would be burying your next actions inside projects.
 
I'd like to share a few concerns I have about GTD, and I'll be happy to read your comments.

Lately, I've had the impression that the term GTD has become increasingly blurred among many website/blog/video authors. A list of projects with a few items to accomplish is enough, and they're using the term GTD loosely. I'm afraid that soon I'll see a simple To-Do list without verbs and then be labeled GTD.

I don't question that people are different and that completely different approaches may work for them. But we can't lump everything into one category called GTD.

For example, we recently saw a video I commented on, which I'm not sure fully covered the GTD methodology. (Again: I'm not criticizing other approaches, but I am questioning the methodology's terminology.)

Or I read this website:

I can understand the author preferring Commitments to Projects.
But I don't see any criteria like time or priority being used here.
The Daily Log as a list of what I've done is perfectly fine, but if I were to use the BUJO method exactly (thankfully, the author doesn't mention this), it would be a list of tasks to be completed on a given day—something Allen wanted to avoid.

In summary: I'm increasingly seeing the intersection of various approaches (often: GTD, Deep Work, BUJO), which may work, perhaps even work better in synergy, but my question is, is it still GTD? And what determines whether we're still moving within the GTD realm? Are there any boundary criteria here?

All comments are welcome...
I think you’ve put your finger on a very important tension. GTD is often presented in fragments — project lists, inboxes, calendars — but what makes it GTD, and not just a dressed-up to-do list, is that it’s built on two twin pillars: Control and Perspective.
  • Control is about being able to capture, clarify and organize commitments so you’re not at the mercy of what’s loudest or latest. It’s not just keeping a few lists — it’s systematically walking through the five stages of workflow: capture what has your attention, clarify what each item means, organize it into the right list or calendar, reflect through regular reviews, and engage with confidence. That whole chain is what keeps things “under control.” Without it, you only have a loose catalog of things — and those quickly slip back into noise.
  • Perspective is about knowing why you’re doing what you’re doing, and at what horizon of focus. Am I only reacting to today’s urgencies, or am I aligning actions with longer-term goals, responsibilities, and life direction? Perspective is what ensures the “to-dos” serve something bigger.
If you take away one of those two objects, you get something that may still look useful — a bullet journal, a focus system, or a deep work calendar — but it no longer provides the whole game GTD was designed to play.

That’s also why David Allen was always cautious about daily task lists: they collapse control into a narrow timeframe, and perspective shrinks accordingly. Instead, the power of GTD lies in being able to make situated choices in the moment, knowing you’ve mapped your whole landscape of commitments.

So for me, the “boundary criteria” is not whether someone uses BuJo, or Notion, or slips in a Deep Work block. The line is: do they still maintain a trusted system that gives them both Control (via the full 5-stage workflow) and Perspective (via the Horizons of Focus)? If yes, they’re still operating within GTD. If one of those dimensions is lost, it drifts into something else — potentially useful, but not GTD.
 
And I’d like to share a complementary angle to this discussion.

I fully understand why some people feel the need to combine GTD with adjacent methodologies. That’s my own case. My mindset is to run my life like an athlete, and for me GTD alone was not enough. During my Weekly Reviews I found myself missing lead and lag indicators — and more importantly, I realized that simply letting my intuitive judgment run the show was not working for me.

That’s why I’ve been supplementing GTD (which I’ve practiced for decades) with the 12 Week Year framework. And for me, that’s fine.

A pro athlete would not structure their daily life purely on GTD, because peak performance doesn’t operate that way. You train in 12-week blocks, with precise prescriptions and measurable outcomes. You can’t afford to wander in the GTD maze if your goal is to perform and win.

At the same time, because you’re human and your life commitments go beyond preparing for the Olympic Games, GTD is indispensable. Especially during recovery or non-training phases, GTD provides the scaffolding to keep everything else on track.

So for me, it’s not an either/or. GTD gives me Control and Perspective across the whole of life, and 12 Week Year gives me the performance discipline I need in focused like training cycles. Together, they make the system work.

And one last note: for me it’s important to know what belongs to which methodology. That way I don’t denature the content of either one, and I can clearly understand why folks may feel the need to supplement GTD with other systems.
 
During my Weekly Reviews I found myself missing lead and lag indicators — and more importantly, I realized that simply letting my intuitive judgment run the show was not working for me.

That’s why I’ve been supplementing GTD (which I’ve practiced for decades) with the 12 Week Year framework. And for me, that’s fine.
Missing lead and lag indicators—so well said, so spot-on.

I myself have also been using both Bullet Journal (BuJo) and GTD methods simultaneously, and I’ve come to similar realizations as you.

Although GTD does have its own philosophical take on vision and goals, in terms of actual mechanisms and workflows, it doesn’t make long-term goals particularly tangible or visible. Especially in the process from collection to execution, it tends to be more reactive in nature. In contrast, BuJo consciously includes a "Future Log" section, and each month has a small blank space where you can intentionally fill in your plans. Admittedly, over the years, this is the section I’ve used the least—because I often don’t know exactly what I’ll be doing in a given future month. But I still think it’s a brilliant concept. Its purpose is to help you visualize your future more clearly. If you write down a goal to achieve or a trip to take in a specific month, it gives you greater confidence, hope, and motivation.

Inspired by this idea, combined with Franklin’s concept of weekly virtues and my own monthly review and reflection practice, I recently added a small new table to my Next Action List in Obsidian. It has only two rows: the top row shows the calendar dates for the next 7 days (e.g., 8.21, 8.22, 8.23, etc.), and the bottom row is space where I can check or cross off each day. For the first week, I wanted to build the habit of going to bed early (since poor sleep and frequent late nights have left me constantly exhausted). So I wrote my target bedtime window above the dates. Since I revisit my Next Action List file multiple times daily, this table serves as a powerful visual reminder, sitting alongside my other next actions and constantly prompting me to stick to my goal. Out of the 7 days, I succeeded on 5—an achievement I’ve never managed before in years of trying. I feel incredibly proud and, for the first time in a long while, physically refreshed and healthy. In the second 7-day cycle, I tried practicing a musical instrument for 15 minutes daily. I succeeded on 6 days, and missed one due to being overwhelmed and tired. But again, I see the value of this visual tracking table: it gives me the motivation to “check in,” which might just be the greatest benefit of what you referred to as the "missing lead and lag indicators." I wonder if your 12 Week Year framework serves a similar purpose? Haha.

As for my understanding of GTD, when I was younger, I imagined it as some super-complex system that could magically solve all my problems—even though I had no idea David Allen’s book existed at the time. My understanding was extremely superficial, and my attitude toward GTD shifted from blind faith to indifference, simply because I didn’t understand what it actually was. It wasn’t until this year, when I finally read the original book, that I realized what GTD truly means. Since then, I’ve been refining and optimizing my own practice. Since everyone uses different tools, has different task loads, and operates in different contexts, we’re all customizing and integrating various approaches to achieve the same goal: getting things done efficiently, thoroughly, and with a calm, stress-free mind. So I totally understand why many people might have their own misconceptions about GTD—after all, not everyone dives deep into it.

I read the two articles the original poster Tom Hagen shared, and honestly, they weren’t too bad—they did mention GTD’s core steps, starting from collection. When we encounter people online who misunderstand GTD, perhaps all we need to do is gently point it out and clarify things. Whether they listen or not doesn’t really matter. That said, if someone truly can’t grasp it or insists on holding a mistaken view, I don’t think we need to force them. Everyone walks their own path. "Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and wisdom to know the difference." That quote comes to mind here.

I hope my sharing adds some value to this discussion. Honestly, I find Tom Hagen’s thread quite meaningful, and the replies below are genuinely insightful. This has probably been one of the most valuable forum posts I’ve come across recently, haha—no offense to the authors of other threads, this is just my personal impression.
 
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