web-crastination

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Hi all,

A little off topic here but it seems that a lot of the members on this list have fought the procrastination battle and are in various states of triumph.

I've been struggling lately and thought I might ask for some help.

In my work I actually do need to do a lot of research on the web. But I find that I very easily get sucked into the byways and hidden treasures of the net - ending up spending a lot of time "researching" things that although interesting don't ultimately add a lot to what I am doing. In other words - I'm wasting time.

I've tried not using the web completely unless I have something specific to look up - creating a next action category of @web to hold these specific things. This sort of works but as soon as I have an action that requires a google search it inevitably leads me away. Besides that seems a waste when there is so much to explore.

I've tried setting time limits but I always seem to find the most interesting thing just when I said I would stop.

I guess I know the answer is to concentrate on what I'm doing and get out of there. A bit like shopping at the supermarket.

Any thoughts.
 
1. Before you go to the internet try to define on paper what it is you are trying to achieve. See it as a mission (I'm gettin' in there, I'm gettin' the data, and I gettin' out fast!) Keep this right under your nose.

2. Watch out for other impulses masquerading as “research” for example, you may be a bit lonely and want to be among fellow webbers, or you may be very sociable and cannot resist getting involved in an on-line discussion. You may be addicted to the phrase “good post!” appearing after one of your own posts.

3. The other sites you are straying to may be front-loaded with very good sales pitches which are hooking you. Don't give them the satisfaction!

4. You may be ending up at sites which are related to your hobbies – remember these ARE NOT WORK.

5. Keep a time log for a few days and you will definitely be horrified when you see the amount of useless time you have spent at the wrong sites.

6. If you get one successful day of focussed research done, you will get a huge dose of pride and feel-good which you can refer to the next day – “How do I want to feel today? I want to feel just like I did yesterday when I stuck to the target!”
 
add another category something like...

@web-X-plorations

Then everytime you get a cool idea about something to look at, research, explore, discover, put it in that list.
Very soon you will have a huge list of very cool ideas.

Then use this list as a REWARD.

When you get your work done, then fooling around with these fun-cool ideas becomes your REWARD.
This way you harness your natural creativity and interests, and use that drive as a reward to get the other work done.

Plus, the Creativity you will unleash will make your work much more valuable.
Who knows, maybe one day you will even make money pursuing those natural passions.
Some folks do make money doing what they love to creatively play at.

Coz
 
Re: web-crastination

I agree with Coz's idea to use the internet as a reward. I do this myself, as I described recently on another post. It has worked well for me.

Even when you do legitimately need to google something for work, you probably become aware at some point that you have wandered from your original goal. At that point, bookmark where you are, or make notes, or do whatever you need to do to feel that you can pick up where you left off later. Then go back to work, but give yourself a defined work goal so that once you achieve it, you can reward yourself with a session of web surfing.

For some of my most hated tasks, I have rewarded myself pretty liberally. For example, I told myself that once I worked on X for 30 minutes (a task I had been avoiding for a long time), I would reward myself with 15 minutes of internet surfing. This work/reward ratio seemed pathetic, but I realized that it would be an infinite improvement over the zero work I had done previously. After I achieved this small success, I found I could increase the work/reward ratio.

Does it sound like this kind of approach would help?

-andersons
 
add another category something like... @web-X-plorations

Then everytime you get a cool idea about something to look at, research, explore, discover, put it in that list. Very soon you will have a huge list of very cool ideas.

Cosmo, this is the most helpful recco I've read in ages!!! I am having a horrendous problem with procrastination right now, and instead of getting busy implementing all the GTD principles and clearing out my junk, I keep digging deeper into all the cool stuff about it on the web. I suppose there are worse ways to waste time, but I HAVE TO FIX THE PROBLEM! :(

I'm going to add this category and try my hardest to stop surfing when I shouldn't be. I may also try to log how much time I waste in a day. That should help to shock me out of it!

Anyone have any book recommendations for the topic of procrastination??
 
Thanks

Thanks all for your ideas.

I've used the idea of having a separate category and leaving this as a reward type.

I also logged usage for a few days - thought I'd better stop that as it was way to frightening - still I guess it is better than veg-ing out in front of the tele. :)

Better get back to work now....
 
Anyone have any book recommendations for the topic of procrastination??

I second the recommendation for The Now Habit. However, there are different psychological reasons behind procrastination. The Now Habit doesn't address all of them, but if it addresses the ones you have, it's a great help.

The Now Habit is for the perfectionistic procrastinator, or the procrastinator who rebels against "having" to do things, or the procrastinator with a Puritan work ethic (weird irony, huh? creates a lot of conflict!) who believes that life should essentially be all work and no play. The person who feels guilty every minute they're not being "productive."

-andersons
 
!Antiavoidance

At this risk of sounding too blunt, after making lots of errors in this area myself, I would suggest that instead of reading more books on Procrastination, that you just make a LIST of everything you are procrastinating on, and then start DOING it TODAY.
(yes, you have to FORCE yourself to do these things sometimes).

The first step is to become aware of ALL the things you have NOT been doing, that you should have finished long ago! (welcome to the human species).

I have created a category called !Antiavoidance.
or
(!Antiprocrastination).

Just Do ONE of these things each day. Eventually you will catch up. (or devote a weekend or a 2 year sabbatical to catching up). :wink:

Just ensure that everything that goes on this list adheres to the GTD ideas. That is, make sure the NA is languaged properly, and that it is a NA and not an Outcome or Project! Also, make sure its not a Wish List, or a dumping ground of a big blob of stuff.

ONLY specific, clear, Next Actions, languaged properly, that you have been putting off for some time.
You can even put them in a Hierarchy from easiest to most complex and difficult, and then start with the easiest, or the hardest.

You can even get a buddy to assign you one of these things to do a week/day, and then check up on you. If you don't do it, then you have the buddy enforce a PENALTY of perhaps giving him $10-$100. If you get it done, then set up a REWARD for yourself to do something you like to do.
(for tough problems, you can escalate these penalties and rewards. Albert Ellis states that you can burn a $100 bill to penalize yourself (try it, it works like magic!), or get your friend to contribute the $100 that you gave him to a political cause you despise, etc).

http://www.davidco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1700&highlight=antiavoidance#1700

You can also search this board for "procrastination".

But be aware, that READING ALL OF THESE BOOKS ON PROCRASTINATION IS AN ELEGANT FORM OF PROCRASTINATION THAT LETS YOU FEEL RELIEVED THAT YOU ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR PROCRASTINATION PROBLEM WITHOUT REALLY DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

Of course, once you get the !Antiavoidance category set-up, and have put things into it, then you will magically find yourself avoiding looking at that category!
All you can do then is to set a daily time to read that list of things out-loud, perhaps in the morning, or whenever, and to have a trusted non-shaming Buddy System.

Also, expect to feel intense ANXIETY when you do this exercise.
That's good! It means you are facing the very things you have been avoiding. Without going into the entire explanation, if you can just ride the anxiety out, it will implode.
(these is much more to this, and several dozen Cognitive-Emotive-Behavioral techniques you can use, but trust me, its much easier to make a simple list, and then FORCE yourself to do it. I know the procrastinators reading this want to start studying the underlying psychological theories behind this, and how and why it all works, and set up a TOTAL COMPLETE PERFECT SYSTEM TO MASTER this for the rest of your life...etc, etc)

That is your Inner Procrastinator talking...
I can tell that your inner procrastinator doesn't like my little idea of making a simple list, and then starting to DO IT right this second...can you feel the ANXIETY rise up just thinking about it?
Good! That is what is causing you to procrastinate!
Wanting to avoid that anxiety.
Sadly, the only solution is to DO what you have not been doing.

Make a list, do it, enforce penalties and rewards, and you will feel like a million bucks when you get the !Antiavoidance category to empty, or even just do one thing off it today.

We have Paleolithic brains that automatically want to AVOID things that it interprets COULD be harmful to us. The problem is that it makes a lot of errors now that we live in a complex, modern world.
And no, you are not a flawed or bad person for procrastinating and not following the GTD system as directed. (Yes, i can tell you are not doing the full GTD system, as i have internet psychic powers). Any type of "Self-Downing" over this just makes it worse.

Coz
 
Many many many thanks for your advice, Coz. You touched on many of the particularities of my mental avoidance (like reading books to feel like I've addressed the problem, then not DOING anything!). I appreciate all the time you've taken to help. Today is the start of a more productive me! :D
 
I trust folks know that when i was writing "you" in the above post, i meant it as a generic device, and it was not directed at a specific person.

It takes one to know one...

Coz
 
Great post, Coz. I would just add that it is great to have a healthy outlet for the anxiety you can fully expect to experience when you are knocking off items on your procastination list. Certainly the best medicine is getting the item done. But to keep you fully committed, you might also think about methods, other than avoidance, to ease the anxiety. This could be meditation, exercise, surfing the web, talking with a friend, etc. (keeping in mind that this should be a means of easing anxiety rather than engaging in further procrastination).
 
Sure, there are all sorts of "techniques" one can use to diminish the anxiety, as one is facing their procrastinations.
There are the Cognitive Therapy methods of "Disputing" the automatic thoughts that are creating the anxiety in the first place.
Those other things you mention could be used as a REWARD AFTER you get the task done. But they could easily be the problem itself, and make it much worse! Why?

When one just goes ahead and FORCES oneself to do these things from the procrastination list, a form of cognitive relearning is going to happen automatically. Its a natural form of "extinction" similar to the treatment of phobias. But in my view, it is NOT behaviorism.
As we actually DO the thing we are avoiding, there is an automatic internal dialogue that happens in our brain.
For instance, I know people who have not done their taxes for a couple of years.
Generally, in their mind, they are thinking stuff like,

"its so hard, it'll take DAYS, I’ll owe money, I don't have time, I’ll do it later, I can't stand the stress of doing it, I hate the government, etc"

Now, you can go and try to fix those nutty thoughts directly.
BUT, if you just decide to FORCE yourself to START on your taxes, then your emotions are going to go CRAZY for a while. They will go up to 100%, motivated by all those irrational, catastrophic thoughts.
But, even if you don't know all the fancy details of this, if you just MAKE yourself do the taxes, then your brain starts to LEARN that doing your taxes is not so bad, and you won't die from doing it. As a matter of fact, its kind of interesting, and learning about taxes is a great way to save some money, and getting your taxes done is better than not doing them, etc, etc.

Here is the key though.
You can't take a break from that anxiety.
You have to FACE it, and allow it to go all the way.
You can't say, "oh, my anxiety is too high, I better go and meditate or surf the net".
That actually makes the problem worse.
You need to hang in there, and FACE it.
There is all sorts of theory at this point, but the bottom line is that if you do not run from your anxiety, it will diminish. We need to build a higher tolerance for discomfort, and not run away from a task just because "it makes us feel bad".
We have to do the exact opposite, and FORCE ourselves to stay with the anxiety.

What happens, is that at some point, the brain LEARNS that doing your taxes is not a terrible thing, but just a task like any other task.
We shouldn't move away from the anxiety, but move right into it.
Face the monster under the bed, and it vanishes, as it never existed in the first place.
When you feel anxiety, or any strong emotion related to procrastination, that is GOOD! Run toward that painful feeling!
Not wanting to feel that feeling is what is causing the procrastination in the first place.

Its really the same method of confronting a phobia. The only way to really do it, is to DO it, perhaps in a graded way.
Its the same as treating a panic disorder.
Folks with panic, have to learn that feeling panic, is nothing to panic about! They have to learn to feel ok with feeling some anxiety and panic!
The only way to really do this is "in vivo".
So in my view, there is no shortcut to actually DOING the thing one is avoiding, and just staying with the bad feelings, and know that if they keep at it, those feelings with implode, and even just VANISH at some point.
I have felt this myself.
At some point, if you keep doing it, those feelings of anxiety/pain just VANISH, and they don't come back.
But its not magic.
The brain has LEARNED that doing that thing is not bad, and is actually GOOD. It can learn that it can ENJOY doing that thing that it once avoided.

But the KEY is to FACE that anxiety/pain, and STAY with it over a period of time, as long as it takes. (not all in one session).
Its completely counterintuitive, which is why people can get so stuck.
There are all sorts of things one can do, like DEEP BREATHING AS YOU ARE DOING THE TASK. This relaxes you as you do it. But in my view, the real change comes from changes the Cognitions, through relearning.

Coz

jmarkey said:
Great post, Coz. I would just add that it is great to have a healthy outlet for the anxiety you can fully expect to experience when you are knocking off items on your procastination list. Certainly the best medicine is getting the item done. But to keep you fully committed, you might also think about methods, other than avoidance, to ease the anxiety. This could be meditation, exercise, surfing the web, talking with a friend, etc. (keeping in mind that this should be a means of easing anxiety rather than engaging in further procrastination).
 
Hey Architect,

I normally time myself because I also procrastinate on-line. I have a Vibralite watch and I set the countdown timer when on the internet (or even lying around) It helps me to notice how much time I’m wasting. Before I set the timer, I usually put an intention to it, as if I'm going to surf for "barnacles" on the internet, for exactly 30 minutes, then stop. I find that when I intentionally set a countdown timer (the task) for 30 minutes it helps me notice how much time has passed and then stop, or move on. It shakes me up.

I also recommend a simple timer program that can run on your computer, it can help. I have used a program called Reality Check and find the taskbar “smiley face” helps me notice what is going on, or how much time I have wasted. I have also found when timing myself I get more accomplished because of the “time” factor. It works well, the links are below.

The main page look for “Reality Check Program”
http://www.consciousdreaming.com/lucid-dreaming/lucid-dream-out-of-body-experiences-resources.htm

The Reality Check Program (direct link)
http://www.consciousdreaming.com/lucid-dreaming/RealityCheck.EXE

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t..._xgl197/102-2888619-9667354?v=glance&n=507846

Also look at:

http://www.habitchange.com/
 
Blank Home Page

One thing I have found useful is having a blank page as my home page when starting up my browser. When I used to have my email or a portal as my homepage I would get stuck in a rathole of hyperlinks checking out news or just new sites. With a blank home page, I need to type in my destination and purposefully go where I intended to in the first place. It does not insulate completely (I may already have it up, for instance), but it does do a decent job of keeping me focused most of the time.

There are some sites I do want to have up at start up sometimes (mail, news, etc.) Since I use firefox, I just keep a group of tabs as the home page with the top tab as blank. Still does a decent job of keeping me focused.
 
Re: Blank Home Page

Maturin said:
One thing I have found useful is having a blank page as my home page when starting up my browser. When I used to have my email or a portal as my homepage I would get stuck in a rathole of hyperlinks checking out news or just new sites. With a blank home page, I need to type in my destination and purposefully go where I intended to in the first place. It does not insulate completely (I may already have it up, for instance), but it does do a decent job of keeping me focused most of the time.

There are some sites I do want to have up at start up sometimes (mail, news, etc.) Since I use firefox, I just keep a group of tabs as the home page with the top tab as blank. Still does a decent job of keeping me focused.

Maturin, I also do the same thing. I use google as my homepage with a different background photo. I also don't usually have a desktop background photo, I just use black, blue, or a nice tan, so I can see what is on my desktop. My desktop is basically my inbox.

I have a few links I check everyday, they are located in my NEWS button on my favorites bar. That's about it.
 
CosmoGTD said:
What happens, is that at some point, the brain LEARNS that doing your taxes is not a terrible thing, but just a task like any other task.

I'm not too sure about this one. I've been facing up to my taxes year after year and my brain hasn't learned that lesson yet...

:lol:

But you are right, as Nike says, "just do it."
 
Actually, you are DOING your taxes, and not procrastinating on them, so your "brain" has learned to just get it done.
Some folks literally don't file taxes for years, and get in much worse trouble.

Coz

jmarkey said:
I'm not too sure about this one. I've been facing up to my taxes year after year and my brain hasn't learned that lesson yet...

:lol:

But you are right, as Nike says, "just do it."
 
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