Oogiem said:
Yiou see those terms as very different I see them as different ways of say ing the same thing, they are interchangeable terms to me.
No difference at all. I too see them as interchangeable terms for the same thing. But I like the term responsibility better than the term focus, and you prefer the term focus.
Oogiem said:
nteresting, for me I don't see GTD as all about responsibilities. In fact the best benefits I get from my GTD practice are not in handling my myriad of responsibilities, the day to day things that I have to do to keep life functioning, but the way to structure and manage the possibilities and big goals that allow me to feel fulfilled at the end of the day.
I have a feeling that a lot of people, not only you, are in fact turned off by the term responsibility and that this may have been one of David's reasons to gradually replace it. But that's just a guess. For me personally, the term responsibility has a clearer ring to it than focus, which I find next to totally non-descriptive.
Oogiem said:
Yes, I know you do. And I want mine to be non-overlapping, as you also know. So here we have a more real difference, a difference that has practical implications.
Oogiem said:
I used to think that as well. Now, with over 6 years of using GTD under my belt I consider them an uneccessary distraction. It's as if they were training wheels to get me thinking about things differently that are no longer needed.
We are both much older than the term GTD. How did you manage before? For me, I lived without the training wheels for about thirty years (just context lists and separate project support files). Then, in about 1998, I decided to move onto a computer, envisioning the ability to be able to shift perspectives at will from the per-context perspective to an area/project perspective and back. Now after 17 years of using these "training wheels" I still love them, and would recommend them to anyone. If they are childish, well, what do I care ;-)
Oogiem said:
I also don't see a big difference in using the terms cleaner and cleaning.
I didn't think you would. That kind of tallies, I believe, with your attitude towards the term responsibility, because that's where the key difference lies. Let me give you a silly-simple example (nothing that either you or I would write a task for, but still perhaps a clear illustration): Say you spill some milk on the floor when serving tea to a potential customer, and you have to wipe it up, is that a clean
ing task? Yes, definitely. But is it the clean
er's task? Would you expect the cleaner to come rushing 24/7 at a moment's notice? Not likely. You would have a hard time finding a cleaner who would accept such an open-ended
responsibility on reasonable terms. It would have to be the salesperson (or whoever spilled the milk) who would have to wipe it up herself.
Now you probably ask "so what"? And for you that is a very reasonable question, since you like overlap (and like to use areas as "areas of benefit" rather than "areas of responsibility"). But for a person who wants to avoid overlap between his/her areas this provides much of the solution. It allows you to see more clearly which
single role you will consider responsible for it (and hence in which bucket you will place it). It does not list the whole range of roles that are somehow indirectly involved or impacted by the spilled milk. It reduces clutter. Simple and effective, IMO.