Going over Leo B article 'steps to clear desk' a 2nd time


- I uploaded quick unprofessional notes of my first reading

or you can go to https://zenhabits.net/steps-to-permanently-clear-desk/ if you like

But need to go over through because of problems of retention of info because of mercury"


"Once upon a time, my desk was cluttered with all the things I was currently working on — not to mention dozens of things I wasn’t working on: notes, post-its, phone numbers, papers to be filed, stacks of stuff to work on later. I was too busy to organize it, and if I ever did get it cleared, it would pile up soon after."

I have same experience.

"It’s a different story today. These days, my desk is always clear, except for the one thing I’m working on, and perhaps a notebook and pen for jotting down notes, ideas or to-dos as they come up. It’s a liberating feeling … it calms me … it reduces stress and chaos … it definitely makes things easier to find … and it makes me more efficient and productive."

I should strive to do the same?

"How did I make the transformation? Well, it wasn’t an easy journey, and I’ve improved over the years, but the basic steps are outlined below. The important thing to remember is that you must have a system in place, and you must teach yourself to follow the system. Otherwise, you just clean your desk, and it gets messy again."

I need to learn his system

"Much of my current system (as opposed to stuff I’ve been trying along the way) is taken almost completely from “Getting Things Done,” by David Allen (via Lifehacker & 43 Folders). A must read if you haven’t yet."

so idea a new thread?

or [http://www.43folders.com/topics/gtd] no don't need make new thread - cos seeing he was just refereancing his personal method for doing GTD and the hyper link was going to book on amazon (when saying is a must read- was writing the GTD book is a must read - TIM! - that is correct?

"
Here’s the system:

1. First, take everything on your desk and in your drawers, and put them in one big pile. Put it in your “in basket” (if it doesn’t fit, pile it next to your desk or something). From now on, everything that comes in must go in your in basket, and you process everything as below."

'when immadely (immidately) see or read this in past - my first thought was actually not sure doing this would help? - if can't finish further steps

"2. Process this pile from the top down. Never re-sort, never skip a single piece of paper, never put a piece of paper back on the pile*1. Do what needs to be done with that paper, and then move on to the next in the pile. The options: trash it, delegate it, file it, do it, or put it on a list to do later. In that order of preference. Do it if it takes 2 minutes or less to complete. If it takes more, and you can’t trash, delegate or file it, then put it on a list of to-dos (more on your to-do list in another post)."

Why would he write to never resort? I wonder
top down? erm
*1 - thats a key point - hes writing to never put object back down on it

right next paraph
"
3. Repeat at least once daily to keep desk clear. The end of the day is best, but I tend to process and tidy up as I go through the day*2. Once you’ve processed your pile, your desk is clear. You’ve trashed or filed or somehow put everything where it belongs (not on top of your desk or stashed in a drawer). Keep it that way. You must follow the system above: put everything in your inbox, then take action on each piece of paper in the inbox with one of the steps listed. If an item is on your to-do list, you can keep the paper associated with it in an “Action” folder. But you must regularly (daily or weekly) go through this folder to ensure that everything is purged."
saying - should do this by routine at end of day after done first time
*2 is he writing thats a better way to do it- put tidy up during day, then don't have do it end of day?
"
It’s that simple. Have a phone number on a post-it? Don’t leave it on top of your desk. File it in your rolodex*3 or contacts program. Have something you need to work on later? Don’t keep the papers on top of your desk. Put it on your to-do list, and file the papers in your Action folder. File or trash or delegate everything else. "
right gave two examples - of bad examples, things which could have been done within two minutes
and then about - where to store the (not post it) but papers in example (of where the papers are in a state of "work on for later" ...


"
Leaving stuff on top of your desk is procrastination (and as a procrastinator, I should know). If you put it off until later, things will be sure to pile up on your desk. Deal with them immediately, make a decision, take action."
Yeah - myself Tim definitely have this issue !

"
What I’ve described is a good habit to learn, but it takes time to learn it. You’ll slip. Just remind yourself, and then do it. Soon it’ll be a habit you have a hard time breaking. And trust me, once you’re used to your desk being clear, you won’t want to break this habit."
Right -makes sense?


'important
after reading this entire article - my reaction/s is also still - im definitely not sure that I wan't to get rid of the chelation labelled objects I have on desk (which use for supplements while on protocol.
"cos in my memory I have it written from Rebbeca Lee mercrucy detox manual : she wrote something you should put your pill minders in visible place, gave example to leave them on desk - so I can (just come back to pill minders on desk?)
quote above "Put it in your “in basket” (" - I have 1 type of small plastic box wrote to @gtdstudente @gtdstudente in the past about using (under my desk) for a type inbox? Then also have a type of metal paper intray (which have 3 intrays on my desk" - so task says I should remove the intray, everything from it and pile it?
"OH i am getting bored "
visualized why didnt @René Lie post about - that same phrase used in password thread?"
in the zen to done book - he wrote "piles are your enemy"
specfiic words "this type sub blog by Leo -actually litearlly links directly to what I was reading chapters in the book today
" I want to say or believe - I was reading maybe chapter seven now - which was Habits?
in chapter 10 of book (not habits) he writes stuff: put stuff away + keep flat surfaces clear for example (opposite to mine right now)
** bingo came back the words: well myself Tim to follow the instructions of the blog feel like I need to first decide on where " the away place" is for the objects?
were those the words?
WE?
I could call this part one - and then continue further posts down below documenting myself clearing my desk
-or - this could be one of my first 30 day habit changes leo recommends "



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or

S?
 
I find a lot of similarities to GTD here, although a bit simplified (and David Allen says that he couldn't do it any simpler than how GTD is set up).

My best advice: try not to spend too much time posting and sharing, but focus on DOING what you read. As you go along and face any obstacles, come back to the forum to seek help - first by searching, and then by asking.
 
I find a lot of similarities to GTD here, although a bit simplified (and David Allen says that he couldn't do it any simpler than how GTD is set up).
right yeah that's what ZTD is - simplifying GTD
My best advice: try not to spend too much time posting and sharing
right - but then how do I remember or recollect what I am trying to learn with mercury?
, but focus on DOING what you read.
any specific strategies - to implement this SV?
As you go along and face any obstacles, come back to the forum to seek help - first by searching
oh right you saying I should use fourm search feature first ? "
, and then by asking.
That's what I have been doing here "

STN
 
I find a lot of similarities to GTD here, although a bit simplified (and David Allen says that he couldn't do it any simpler than how GTD is set up).

My best advice: try not to spend too much time posting and sharing, but focus on DOING what you read. As you go along and face any obstacles, come back to the forum to seek help - first by searching, and then by asking.


Here in , I could share a quote

QUOTE "
Scraps papers 1
Shelfs 2
Tub 3
*organizer

V says - idea have 1 cup of pens on desk
With small amount variety, - rest 2

1 kitchen mug cup - with 2 coloured highlighters, 1 scissor, 2 coloured highlighters , 3o f 1 of different kinds of pencils e.g. mechanical, one normal HB, then on small styled thick penicil - for …, 1 sharpie , 1 main highlighted bold pen

"could do above incrementally ' with cool timer 15min WERE WORDS

"
END QUOTE
I wrote "Scraps papers1 - cos on my metal in tray I had types "cut papers" for example with scissors erm "could show pic off? " built up over time - say maybe a year (which just happened from myself - cutting pieces of paper (which are not being used (from when also used paper for something else i.e. writing? ) - cutt with sicssors to save the amount of paper
But - words pointers in head were - isn't X persons like Allen actually say - You should should just use whole sheets of paper and actually: not use the back sides of paper to help yourself with presentation? can bold this, picture this
"even though - doing so in theory would help environment with paper?
or " if feel angry I can just bin destroy the stack of scrap papers then (which my mother would - has also done)
'maybe a person such as @gtdstudente interested specifically this quote about scraps papers?


Basically - when I shared the article to my mother
She replied to myself " instead of putting the stuff on pile on floor together I could or can just put stuff on shelfs " [so that's what I'm resulting to doing, but is this best yes or no? ]

Myself Tim mentioned idea myself that Leo B says - literally put absolutely everything clear off desk, so is completely empty (- is this true?*1 )

Why did I write organizer? - either to represent literally - 1) everything on my desk which had value should have been put on a organizer (referencing leos writing about processing*2?, or 2) - was it I should use the cupboard organizer I have in my room or 3) ...

I gave example myself Tim - moving cups (and leaving one [cos makes sense as a place to stay instead having moving everyday(*3 is part in the book tho about writing giving all objects a keeping place) - right "
WE literally?

Well V says - I need to go over then where Leo B had this reference article "desk to clear" is it correct.
*1
But also says about giving objects or things "a home or place to stay" - like mentioned example use tubs (not on desk to completely organize everything.


WE - was did I tag any other than rene Lie in post above?
Like studente about other problem in my bedroom

Or why did @mcogilvie users

STN and leave tab open - furthest right
 
or quoted example

"*tubs with tools # maybe was wrong - saw something in B written about tub box


What ? - about the recommendation from Leo - for putting everything in tubs or boxes "when writing ideas " chapter organization in book written (giving everything a place for example)


SEND?
 
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WORDS - feel not the best since - uploaded previous reply on this post.

" here - is a picture how tried to change my desk.

v says - in one note basically erm I - must probably have 3 separate tabs (where I have documented myself with details literally text documentation about changes made / making when trying to move desk .

background words : I'm still unsure if its best (ideas not sure documented?

-have a completely clear desk.
or put in place a - system 'separate' keeping place for objects out on desk(as swear saw written in the book) *

But V says idea : why not literally I try - just a trial implementation of the idea "completely clear desk" quick 1 "
or 2re do chronologically the description of instructions (of this article
WE?
obviously key pointers in picture - are the in-tray, right side of desk etc

maybe @René Lie

*above* "seek help - first by searching, term desk [https://forum.gettingthingsdone.com/search/26519/?q=desk&o=date] opens a 10 pages of results - but doesn't seem be anything really about specific topic writing about 'about keeping tidying your desk clear?'

What else
send this now
 
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WORDS - feel not the best since - uploaded previous reply on this post.

" here - is a picture how tried to change my desk.

v says - in one note basically erm I - must probably have 3 separate tabs (where I have documented myself with details literally text documentation about changes made / making when trying to move desk .

background words : I'm still unsure if its best (ideas not sure documented?

-have a completely clear desk.
or put in place a - system 'separate' keeping place for objects out on desk(as swear saw written in the book) *

But V says idea : why not literally I try - just a trial implementation of the idea "completely clear desk" quick 1 "
or 2re do chronologically the description of instructions (of this article
WE?
obviously key pointers in picture - are the in-tray, right side of desk etc

maybe @René Lie

*above* "seek help - first by searching, term desk [https://forum.gettingthingsdone.com/search/26519/?q=desk&o=date] opens a 10 pages of results - but doesn't seem be anything really about specific topic writing about 'about keeping tidying your desk clear?'

What else
send this now
@TimBourne

Thank you for your post herein

As a good GTD practice, everything that does not belong where it is . . . needs to go into the 'Inbox' for clarifying ?

Thank you very much

As you see GTD fit. . . .
 
@TimBourne

Thank you for your post herein

As a good GTD practice, everything that does not belong where it is . . . needs to go into the 'Inbox' for clarifying ?

Thank you very much

As you see GTD fit. . . .

thanks for being only person so far to respond?

"As a good GTD practice, everything that does not belong where it is . . . needs to go into the 'Inbox' for clarifying ?" that's what I'm struggling with right now - deciding where's best place for keeping places , trying to follow Leos instructions ?

STN?
 
@TimBourne

Thank you for your post herein

As a good GTD practice, everything that does not belong where it is . . . needs to go into the 'Inbox' for clarifying ?

Thank you very much

As you see GTD fit. . . .


I tried uploading this

' and literally
erm

feel like ...
G to start with "

WE ?
 
@TimBourne

Thank you for your post herein

As a good GTD practice, everything that does not belong where it is . . . needs to go into the 'Inbox' for clarifying ?

Thank you very much

As you see GTD fit. . . .
+ @Rene @René Lie

L thread on desk to clear

Words - I printed off actually literally - a type of paper copy of the article

  • And started writing pointers in pencil of things could improve (like checklist) - as shown, feeling I'm the type of person who literally - couldn't read this article and follow the instructions first time , because ,having so much clutter on my desk or room
WE 11
My hope is - ideally I would be able to achieve something such as literally maybe - get to a level as Leo author describe in book with minimal amounts on his desk

Or I was recurringly thinking about these concepts in my mind- after I got type 'habit tracker' and am trying to put "clearing desk" on it

Felt like - since first made this thread, haven't actually been doing the clear your se
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Please see pictures attached - what they show is myself -started in the pencil writing "object" names for items on desk, sort of like a checklist style - for myself to clarify the habit
should I literally - try to list ALL OBJECTS ON MY DESK which - would think have another 'home space' ?
HOW
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R I about everything off desk? "

S
 
+ @Rene @René Lie

L thread on desk to clear

Words - I printed off actually literally - a type of paper copy of the article

  • And started writing pointers in pencil of things could improve (like checklist) - as shown, feeling I'm the type of person who literally - couldn't read this article and follow the instructions first time , because ,having so much clutter on my desk or room
WE 11
My hope is - ideally I would be able to achieve something such as literally maybe - get to a level as Leo author describe in book with minimal amounts on his desk


Or I was recurringly thinking about these concepts in my mind- after I got type 'habit tracker' and am trying to put "clearing desk" on it

Felt like - since first made this thread, haven't actually been doing the clear your se
466379173_1654906635404619_1182758666730700766_n.jpg

Please see pictures attached - what they show is myself -started in the pencil writing "object" names for items on desk, sort of like a checklist style - for myself to clarify the habit
should I literally - try to list ALL OBJECTS ON MY DESK which - would think have another 'home space' ?
HOW
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*
R I about everything off desk? "

S
@TimBourne

Make it easier for yourself ?

If something is not where you want is to 'always' be, then place in Inbox for Clarifying to Organize . . in this case Organize has a wider application beyond Reference files and Project/Context lists

You can write out everything after every physical thing is in place or simply take a picture of your workspace

As you see GTD fit. . . .
 
@TimBourne

Make it easier for yourself ?
'make what easier for myself
If something is not where you want is to 'always' be
thats not correct according to UK grammar

your saying if something is not where I want?' - how
two questions
how do I realize that
then also how do I then - pick the best place
, then place in Inbox for Clarifying to Organize . .
*1
in this case Organize has a wider application beyond Reference files and Project/Context lists

"
Organize has a wider application beyond Reference files and Project/Context lists"?
You can write out everything after every physical thing is in place
thats what im struggling with right now
or simply take a picture of your workspace
I tried that once - at the start of this thread - can you see it or should I hyper link the above post?
As you see GTD fit. . . .

*1
' - I felt leo wasn't trying to share this method, against it?
with his organization trying to focus against referencing FE

STN
 
'make what easier for myself

thats not correct according to UK grammar

your saying if something is not where I want?' - how
two questions
how do I realize that
then also how do I then - pick the best place

*1


"


thats what im struggling with right now

I tried that once - at the start of this thread - can you see it or should I hyper link the above post?


*1
' - I felt leo wasn't trying to share this method, against it?
with his organization trying to focus against referencing FE

STN
@TimBourne

Sorry. . . meaning take the picture of your desk when it's the way you like it to be . . . then the picture can a reference or decoration ?

Also, if the picture you posted is the way you like your desk . . . then it absolutely GTD perfect for you . . . good job !

As you see GTD fit. . . .
 
@TimBourne

Sorry. . . meaning take the picture of your desk when it's the way you like it to be . . . then the picture can a reference or decoration ?
Oh.
I understand now? - That's also what I was contemplating?
Because in Leos writing - he writes descriptions of a certain way (without pictures).
But the descriptions/articles- he used definite language - like I think was trying to get meaning have little as possible.

I could do this post new pictures?
Also, if the picture you posted is the way you like your desk . . . then it absolutely GTD perfect for you . . . good job !
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So you were able to see actually this picture above - old picture.

makes me think - I didn't post an update showing how it now is , comparing it exactly.
As you see GTD fit. . . .

One of my repeating ideas was to trial a desk "little as possible"
then write pros and cons of that.

then compare it to a version that is tidy a "certain amount"
;
 
Oh.
I understand now? - That's also what I was contemplating?
Because in Leos writing - he writes descriptions of a certain way (without pictures).
But the descriptions/articles- he used definite language - like I think was trying to get meaning have little as possible.

I could do this post new pictures?

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So you were able to see actually this picture above - old picture.

makes me think - I didn't post an update showing how it now is , comparing it exactly.


One of my repeating ideas was to trial a desk "little as possible"
then write pros and cons of that.

then compare it to a version that is tidy a "certain amount"
;
@TimBourne

Thank you very much

Very GTD nice

Good job !
 
@TimBourne

Thank you very much

Very GTD nice

Good job !
IT

please see :

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"I was

or up to this point in time - since read Leos article on the topic .
I had basically being allowing or quantifying a "clear desk" to - count as shown in this picture.
would you agree?

erm or have other suggestions for improvements.

literally - I was contemplating writing back on this thread maybe for the past 5 days - cos feel intuitively actually - personally
or obviously I feel haven't been applying the "article " by leo .



-one of the ideas I must have wrote above is comparing levels or versions of my desk e.g. the tidiest version versus a "less tidy" and so forth

Do you think that is worth it?

S

i was hoping maybe others see this thread - and be able advise improvements?

STN?
 
IT

please see :

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"I was

or up to this point in time - since read Leos article on the topic .
I had basically being allowing or quantifying a "clear desk" to - count as shown in this picture.
would you agree?

erm or have other suggestions for improvements.

literally - I was contemplating writing back on this thread maybe for the past 5 days - cos feel intuitively actually - personally
or obviously I feel haven't been applying the "article " by leo .



-one of the ideas I must have wrote above is comparing levels or versions of my desk e.g. the tidiest version versus a "less tidy" and so forth

Do you think that is worth it?

S

i was hoping maybe others see this thread - and be able advise improvements?

STN?
@TimBourne

Wow . . . great job . . . you are quite the GTD aspiration

Thank you very much
 
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@TimBourne

Wow . . . great job . . . you are quite the GTD aspiration

Thank you very much

'You don't have ideas - of improvements to make based on that image?
the other 1 I uploaded was this showing the in-tray

so your saying - it wouldn't help me to try to further minimize my desk like I interpret Leo was trying to write in the article?

and that - having my desk - show in picture is quantifiable as tidy or clear enough - to "tick the habit" - do you understand?

S

STN?
 
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'You don't have ideas - of improvements to make based on that image?
the other 1 I uploaded was this showing the in-tray

so your saying - it wouldn't help me to try to further minimize my desk like I interpret Leo was trying to write in the article?

and that - having my desk - show in picture is quantifiable as tidy or clear enough - to "tick the habit" - do you understand?

S

STN?
@TimBourne

To continue improving anything . . . continue removing anything absolutely unnecessary ?

As you see GTD fit. . . .
 
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