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was just thinking about this today. makes sense?
Oogiem said:No, not to me. ALL workers have a high ROI when GTD is implemented. I would have it a straight line up near the top. Have you ever read Cheaper by the Dozen? Minimizing therbligs in any job is important and GTD helps you do that no matter what your job function is.
Oogiem said:No, not to me. ALL workers have a high ROI when GTD is implemented. I would have it a straight line up near the top.
TesTeq said:Do you suggest that GTD makes a cashier at a supermarket more productive? I wonder how?
YOu cannot separate work and personal. GTD is a methodology to help you achieve your dreams,. If you've ever read any of Barbara Sher's stuff one of the things she talks about is people who choose to work in what would be considered menial jobs to make the money they need to pursue their other interests.nunodonato said:From my experience with others, for people who do 90% mechanical work, GTD doesn't sound as a valuable tool or something they could use daily. By mechanical I dont just mean physical work, I mean work which has no(or almost no) thinking to be done. All tasks are defined for you and you just have to blindly push the buttons.
Oogiem said:Absolutely. Just because you are in a menial job doesn't mean you can't have an impact. For example, one project might be to make sure you smile and greet by name everyone who comes through your line. That will improve the customer experience and result in more sales. At least here most cashiers are also paid bonuses based on the number of customers and amount of money spent with them so that could help your bottom line too. Your work station might not be set up so that it is efficient, some rearranging might help there.
CJSullivan said:The menial jobs you speak of are just jobs with incredibly short completion cycles. So, in that sense, no - someone is not going to put "open till, put in money" as a next action, or "complete transaction with shopper" as a project. But there's something about this thread that makes me a little uncomfortable... As Oogie has already pointed out, GTD is a holistic approach to managing all the open loops in one's life. To assume that a cashier or other "non-thinking" (????!!!!) worker (a) doesn't have to think, or (b) doesn't have anything else going on in their life that needs managing... errr... I dunno... Doesn't feel like a good leap to make to me...
CJSullivan said:As Oogie has already pointed out, GTD is a holistic approach to managing all the open loops in one's life. To assume that a cashier or other "non-thinking" (????!!!!) worker (a) doesn't have to think, or (b) doesn't have anything else going on in their life that needs managing... errr... I dunno... Doesn't feel like a good leap to make to me...
Folke said:Then you should be pleased to note that only you yourself made that strange connection.
nunodonato said:It reminds me of an example David used to use "if all you do is crank widgets all day, then there is nothing much to think about" - consequentely, there will be not many open loops. I think we all agree on this
bcmyers2112 said:You can't come up with a quantifiable "ROI" for something like that based on someone's profession.
No I interpreted it that way too, as if physical or repetitive work means you are not a thinking person., Personally I found it insulting and had to rein in my initial thoughts and what I really wanted to say.Folke said:Then you should be pleased to note that only you yourself made that strange connection. I never noticed anyone else here referring to "non-thinking" people or people that do not have open loops outside work.
Folke said:The all-pervasive perceived benefit (of an almost religious nature) that some people report is probably also impossible to predict.