question about using a list manager whilst at a job

[TimBourne]

question about using a list manager whilst at a job

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example of a low level job

such as a cleaner - does it make sense for the person whilst in a shift paid - to also at the same time jot or make notes on phone , like a list manager to do

at the same time (whilst in the job - doing something such as walking to do a different task)

This is doing two things at the same time " O send"



I tried submitting this on reddit , a sub reddit - to do with success, but not sure was able post it because im not familiar with reddit

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@John Forrister could help here

 

[Mrs-Polifax]

@TimBourne

Hi, Tim.

I am restating your question in the way I understand it as a whole: "Does it make sense for me to use a list manager on my phone to take notes while I am working on my low-level job as a cleaner?"

Answer: No.

Reason: You could possibly lose your job. When you are on the job the employer is paying for your time and expects you to be working.

Observation: David Allen suggests that in GTD we need to record whatever is on our mind at the time it arises before we forget it, which is a best practice. This is unfortunately not a practical reality in a low-level job.

Suggestion 1: You can take notes on your phone during your official work breaks, lunch hour, before work, after work, etc. You can create a routine to do a mind sweep daily right after work.

Suggestion 2: Establish a future plan to further your education and develop your abilities, so you can rise to a higher-level position in the future. There are a lot of years in a lifetime for you to recover your health and improve your circumstances. In future you will someday need to survive without your parents, as we all do. A future plan that you work on a little now without stress or rush would help you begin to think about your future and begin to explore the possibilities. To guide you in this process, consider reading a book by Julia Cameron entitled, "The Artist's Way."

Warmly with best wishes,

Emily

 

[TimBourne]

@TimBourne

Hi, Tim.

I am restating your question in the way I understand it as a whole: "Does it make sense for me to use a list manager on my phone to take notes while I am working on my low-level job as a cleaner?"

Answer: No.

Reason: You could possibly lose your job. When you are on the job the employer is paying for your time and expects you to be working.

right but - other people colleagues at workplace will also use phones when at job
and I was trying to explain something a scenario - you might for example - be in the building - and walking in mind to location to say get or do something for cleaning (then at same time - you could hold phone in one hand - get things off your mind) - and at the same time your not decreasing your working speed are you?

Observation: David Allen suggests that in GTD we need to record whatever is on our mind at the time it arises before we forget it, which is a best practice.

right? so what are you saying here? so What if I start to have thoughts - after I woken up (and am travelling community to my job/work)

This is unfortunately not a practical reality in a low-level job.

a job at a retail shop?

Suggestion 1: You can take notes on your phone during your official work breaks, lunch hour, before work, after work, etc.

right but what if I don't get given a break?

You can create a routine to do a mind sweep daily right after work.

right a mind sweep?
but don't think your saying like a weekly review one
but like of the kind - of the "mind sweep " video you wrote about?

Suggestion 2: Establish a future plan to further your education and develop your abilities, so you can rise to a higher-level position in the future.

right?

There are a lot of years in a lifetime for you to recover your health and improve your circumstances.

you think I can improve?

In future you will someday need to survive without your parents, as we all do. A future plan that you work on a little now without stress or rush would help you begin to think about your future and begin to explore the possibilities. To guide you in this process, consider reading a book by Julia Cameron entitled, "The Artist's Way."

brings up https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=93...EDSAQgyOTAwajBqMagCALACAA&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=HCTS

"The Artist's Way: A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity is a 1992 self-help book by American author Julia Cameron. The book was written to help people with artistic creative recovery, which teaches techniques and exercises to assist people in gaining self-confidence in harnessing their creative talents and skills."

its to do with drawing?

maybe makes sense - not start that book after previous suggestion of book for helping mood you gave ?

Warmly with best wishes,

Emily

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[cfoley]

In that sort of job, I would want to have with me some sort of universal capture, an action list for the @Work context and maybe a project list. The rest of my system could be at home. Using a phone would certainly work, but depending on the workplace, using a phone might make it look like you are not doing your job. A small pad and pencil might work better. I imagine someone who writes down tasks they are given and never forgets them would be the sort of person we would all like to work with.

 

[TimBourne]

In that sort of job, I would want to have with me some sort of universal capture, an action list for the @Work context and maybe a project list. The rest of my system could be at home.

Im not sure what you mean here

Using a phone would certainly work, but depending on the workplace, using a phone might make it look like you are not doing your job.

Well that is correct , ive seen manager say before that certain employees are not suppose have phone out while on shop floor

A small pad and pencil might work better. I imagine someone who writes down tasks they are given and never forgets them would be the sort of person we would all like to work with.

What?
why would it work better
your writing using pads or paper at job ?

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[cfoley]

I think a pad of paper would work better than a phone because phones can be used for procrastination and other sorts of non-work. A pad of paper is more limited and you can easily show that you're writing down tasks you need to do at work. What was unclear in my first sentence?

 

[TimBourne]

I think a pad of paper would work better than a phone because phones can be used for procrastination and other sorts of non-work.

'Not - if you have types of settings to for example turn off notifications for those "non-work things" - right
all other colleagues seem to use phone ?

A pad of paper is more limited and you can easily show that you're writing down tasks you need to do at work.

but at my work I'm not sure I need to write down any tasks to do?

What was unclear in my first sentence?

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