Jeff Osborne
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Where should I put "Jello wresting pit" in Nirvana?
kelstarrising
Kelly | GTD expert
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Definitely current Projects, with the Next Action being to source 10,000 packets of Jello.
Jeff Osborne
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Thank you. Hmmm that is a lot of Jello. I think i'll put it in "Someday"
Jeff Osborne
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It seems the best GTD minds are on this thread so, off topic to this threads title and probably a stupid question, bearing in mind that I'm online just about everywhere I take my windows PC, is there any advantage of the Nirvana app over the browser. Do they have identical functionality?
kelstarrising
Kelly | GTD expert
They are nearly identical in my experience. I find that to be the case more and more with apps. No longer are web versions a weird afterthought.
Bill Myers
Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny
Ah, yes. The GTD Jell-O pit. Where @TesTeq, @Longstreet and I will finally meet and resolve once and for all who has the best GTD software. Time to throw down!
Bill Myers
Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny
I have just about completed my migration from Nirvana to Todoist, but one thing I'll say in favor of Nirvana is that it's nice that the web and PC versions have just about achieved feature parity. Makes it easy to switch between the two.
Looking back, I see that this thread was started in May 2019, and I replied that as far as I knew, Nirvana was ongoing. A month later I met Elbert (Nirvana's main developer) and his wife at the GTD Summit, where they had a booth.
Hello Everyone.
I'm cycling back into GTD after giving up on it for a few years, after an unfortunate experience with OmniFocus.
I actually found Chaos Control to be more accessible than Nirvana, I think because it made help really accessible for novice GTD users like myself. But it's a Russian based company, and I'm concerned about privacy, as I would be for any company in a country that may not value privacy at the national level. I don't see Chaos Control mentioned much in this forum. It appears to have much of the same features that Nirvana has, except it has no references, but it also allows nesting of projects. So I got the general idea of how that featureset for the app was supposed to work for GTD, and went to apply it Nirvana.
Is the Nirvana web client gone? The first thing I tried to do was log into the web client, only to find that I couldn't find it.
It looks like Nirvana implemented an email-to-inbox feature while I was away. I had trouble figuring out how to set this up. Couldn't find documentation anywhere. There was a blurb on one of their blog posts, but the part disclosing the instructions for finding the email address was missing. For anyone that finds themselves in this situation after me, I noticed that "Manage Account" was underlined when looking at Settings. Clicking on it brought me to this page: https://account.nirvanahq.com/dashboard, where I was able to find my email address. ... and even set an email reminder of my daily focus list.
I got it set up with Braintoss and it worked pretty well, once I figured out how to change the server side settings: https://braintoss.freshdesk.com/sup...9588-how-do-i-change-the-format-of-the-email- .
I find it a little confusing that nothing is nested in Nirvana. Every project is jumbled together with all other projects, and the same for references. I'm sure that this is my beginner GTD-ness showing, and I can see the attraction of not getting bogged down into figuring out nesting folders, but my brain really doesn't like everything jumbled together like that.
Also, is it true that not every option is available in the android version, as it is in the desktop version? I tried to use the web app to verify this, but couldn't find the web app ...
I'm cycling back into GTD after giving up on it for a few years, after an unfortunate experience with OmniFocus.
I actually found Chaos Control to be more accessible than Nirvana, I think because it made help really accessible for novice GTD users like myself. But it's a Russian based company, and I'm concerned about privacy, as I would be for any company in a country that may not value privacy at the national level. I don't see Chaos Control mentioned much in this forum. It appears to have much of the same features that Nirvana has, except it has no references, but it also allows nesting of projects. So I got the general idea of how that featureset for the app was supposed to work for GTD, and went to apply it Nirvana.
Is the Nirvana web client gone? The first thing I tried to do was log into the web client, only to find that I couldn't find it.
It looks like Nirvana implemented an email-to-inbox feature while I was away. I had trouble figuring out how to set this up. Couldn't find documentation anywhere. There was a blurb on one of their blog posts, but the part disclosing the instructions for finding the email address was missing. For anyone that finds themselves in this situation after me, I noticed that "Manage Account" was underlined when looking at Settings. Clicking on it brought me to this page: https://account.nirvanahq.com/dashboard, where I was able to find my email address. ... and even set an email reminder of my daily focus list.
I got it set up with Braintoss and it worked pretty well, once I figured out how to change the server side settings: https://braintoss.freshdesk.com/sup...9588-how-do-i-change-the-format-of-the-email- .
I find it a little confusing that nothing is nested in Nirvana. Every project is jumbled together with all other projects, and the same for references. I'm sure that this is my beginner GTD-ness showing, and I can see the attraction of not getting bogged down into figuring out nesting folders, but my brain really doesn't like everything jumbled together like that.
Also, is it true that not every option is available in the android version, as it is in the desktop version? I tried to use the web app to verify this, but couldn't find the web app ...
Bill Myers
Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny
I am using Nirvana. I have the Windows client open right now. They are most definitely still in business. I haven't heard anything suggesting the product is going away. Quite the opposite. They recently added a developer to their staff.
I'm not sure why you couldn't find the web client. I just checked a minute ago and it's up and running. What URL are you using?
Here is where you can find help articles: https://help.nirvanahq.com/. I used the search to find instructions for emailing to Nirvana, and found this: https://help.nirvanahq.com/category.../add-your-items/#create-inbox-items-via-email.
I'm not sure why you couldn't find the web client. I just checked a minute ago and it's up and running. What URL are you using?
Here is where you can find help articles: https://help.nirvanahq.com/. I used the search to find instructions for emailing to Nirvana, and found this: https://help.nirvanahq.com/category.../add-your-items/#create-inbox-items-via-email.
It turns out that you can only access the web client through the desktop, not a mobile device. I don’t really use a desktop, and only wanted to see the web client briefly, so I suppose I hit an edge case that isn’t supported by nirvana when I tried to view the web client in a browser on a mobile device. I tried switching to desktop mode, but apparently that is blocked as well. Guessing that I’ll have to spoof my device in order to see the web client from a mobile device.
Bill Myers
Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny
You mentioned wanting to see the web client "briefly." Are you using the mobile app? If so, do you mind if I ask why you wanted to see the web client at all?
If you're not using the mobile app, do you mind if I ask why that is?
TronYuuNao
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Hi @bcmyers2112. I see on this thread above that you had migrated to Todoist, but now seems you're back on NirvanaHQ? I too am considering Todoist or my old NirvanaHQ account (back on Windows at work and Omnifocus for Web just is not cutting it). Just curious to hear your rationale/experience as I always appreciated your insights when I came to this forum more often. Cheers
René Lie
Certified GTD Trainer
I have no experience with Nirvana, but with Asana I can reach the web client if I choose "show desktop version" in my mobile browser.
Not sure if this works with Nirvana, but I thought it might be worth mentioning...
Bill Myers
Fleeing from the Cylon tyranny
I'm happy to share, but I don't know if I can be of much help. I've bounced back and forth between Todoist and Nirvana for a number of reasons, all of them personal. At times I've switched tools because I'd let my system go to absolute hell, and one tool was full of crud whereas the other was for me a blank slate.
Also, I have Generalized Anxiety Disorder. When it gets bad sometimes I fool around trying to perfect my system in order to prevent some imagined catastrophe that would result from a poorly-worded next action or something. There are better strategies to manage my anxiety and today I am focused on those.
I decided to commit to Nirvana simply because I've used it more and am therefore more familiar with it. But I like both tools. Either can work if you work them. Also, the David Allen Company offers setup guides for both, so you don't have to feel like you're re-inventing the wheel with them.
Lucas W.
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@talundbl
I can just add that I would only recommend Todoist to the more experienced GTDers – someone who is sure of his GTD setup and workflow.
From my perspective – the need to use both project lists and labels in Todoist was confusing and from time to time I did mistakes during the organizing process – so I did not feel comfortable with my system and taking care of it was more engaging than it should be.
I can just add that I would only recommend Todoist to the more experienced GTDers – someone who is sure of his GTD setup and workflow.
From my perspective – the need to use both project lists and labels in Todoist was confusing and from time to time I did mistakes during the organizing process – so I did not feel comfortable with my system and taking care of it was more engaging than it should be.
Ariadne Marques
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I've also switched between Nirvana and Todoist a couple of times. Just this week I decided I had some time and headspace available to experiment with Todoist to set it up the way I want it. I lost my enthusiasm in a day or so because I was tinkering with the filters to set up my contexts and it just feels too cumbersome.
Yes, that's what usually happens with me. It just feels too much maintenance for the system I envision (and that I already have with Nirvana). I think Todoist is great if you get the hang of setting up the projects/filters. Or having a simpler setup.
One reason I always look at Todoist is because of the global capture shortcut on desktop and quick natural language processing. The funny thing is that I've tried it multiple times hoping it would work and it never sticks with me. It's a lesson I never learn
.Nirvana is still my go-to tool, mainly because I've used it the most and during a longer period overall.